Why do societal problems like poverty and crime persist, even when countries pass laws to solve them? 

 

We often think the legislative process—drafting a bill, debating it, and enacting it—is the ultimate solution. But David Schrunk, President of the Science of Laws Institute, argues that we have it backwards. In the latest INCOSE Podcast, David explores why the traditional lawmaking method used in many nations fails to define problems, measure outcomes, or ensure effectiveness. 

 

What if we treated legislation like any other complex system? From Japan’s "Agile Governance" framework to new policy-engineering initiatives in Mongolia, countries around the world are beginning to explore how we can apply systems engineering rigor to the "system of systems" that is modern government.  Learn more at www.scienceoflaws.org

 

Listen to the full episode to hear how systems engineering can serve as a universal tool for better governance. 🎧

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Releasedatum: 27-4-2026 22:55:11