Welcome to BIG IDEAS by NEW ECONOMIES - a show where we learn how the most iconic founders have turned crucible moments into global companies. Throughout these episodes, we also discover the trends our guests are most excited about, and the types of businesses those trends could go on to create.

This week’s guest is Lucy Guo, the co-founder behind Scale AI, and more recently founder of Passes which provides infrastructure to thousands of creators.

In this conversation, Lucy opens up about the journey, the lessons, and where she sees the next big opportunities emerging.

Throughout the episode we discuss:

* How Lucy went from high-school entrepreneur to the youngest self-made female billionaire.

* The founding story of Scale AI and how to avoid co-founder conflicts.

* The creator economy: Where are we today, where the category is going next, how will creator startups monetize and big AI opportunities for creators.

* The next big tech trends across the creator economy & driverless cars.

Grab a notebook and enjoy the episode ✍️

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Episode Chapters:

* (0:00) Intro

* (3:10) Lucy's founding story

* (8:35) The Thiel Fellowship

* (10:00) Scale AI

* (13:50) Passes

* (15:20) The Creator Economy: Where are we?

* (21:20) Building a creator startup

* (24:20) Creator Pricing

* (27:27) New Forms Of Social Media

* (28:47) Raising $50M

* (31:20) Staying On Top Of AI

* (32:20) AI Concerns

* (34:00) AI Opportunities For Creators

* (35:27) Being A Savvy Angel Investor

* (36:38) Trends

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Releasedatum: 7-9-2025 09:51:19