In this engaging conversation, Ilona and Evan discuss their roles and experiences in leading innovation within their respective law firms, Cleary Gottlieb and Fisher Phillips. Ilona, the Director of Practice Innovation at Cleary, shares her journey from McKinsey to leading a transformation journey at Cleary. Evan, the Chief Knowledge and Innovation Officer at Fisher Phillips, talks about his shift from labor and employment law into knowledge management and legal technology. The discussion covers their strategies for partnering with early-stage companies, the impact of generative AI on the legal industry, the importance of being thought leaders, and the challenges and opportunities of incorporating AI into legal practices. They also delve into the long-term benefits of working with startups, AI governance, and the future trajectory of AI in redefining the value proposition of the legal profession. 

 

Topics discussed:

IIona's Journey and Role at Cleary

Evan's Career Path and Role at Fisher Phillips 

The Impact of Generative AI on Legal Tech 

Pre-Generative AI Adoption Strategies 

Evaluating Startups and Early Partnerships 

Risk Management and AI Governance 

Learn More:

Ilona - https://www.pli.edu/faculty/ilona-logvinova-i2002979

Evan - https://www.fisherphillips.com/en/people/evan-shenkman.html

Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/

 

Follow Along:

Ilona - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilonalogvinova

Evan - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evan-shenkman-5445123

Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz

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Releasedatum: 13-2-2025 12:32:59